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Da, imaju dospijece. Do kraja 9. mjeseca je dospjevalo 200 milijardi $, za koje nisu imali para platit. [lol]

Nije bilo puno interesenata za kupnju obveznica od institucije koja ima 1:34 leverage (hebote pa nije to FOREX), a imovina vrijedi bogzna kolko. Glavno da se dividenda isplacivala.

ako sam dobro shvatio, sve ovo je prošlo svršeno vrijeme …
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Da, jedan potez perom je rijesio sve probleme. [thumbsup]

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."

OPEC will not allow oil drop under 100$ barrier.

The Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries(OPEC) may decide to cut the cartel’s oil output quota as the price of crude risks falling under $US100 a barrel, energy consultancy CGES says.
The OPEC is scheduled to meet Sept. 9 in Vienna and has indicated it may take action to defend the $100 a barrel level.

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Anyway, sad ce americkim poreznim obveznicima doci racun na nekih 100-200 milijardi $. Ki to more platit? Eto i automobilska industrija zica 50 milijardi $. Pa to je ko hrvatska brodogradnja.
[lol]

E. Al mi smo se prije sjetili! [lol] Oni su tek sad skužili da mogu (moraju) radit takva sranja.

Amerika i Engleska biće zemlja proleterska… [sealed]
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Kinezi su sokirani komunizmom u USA. [lol]
Da i to dozivimo.

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."

evo fazan samo za tebe i preporučam za čitanje jako poučno štivo (ima 8 strana)
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/bear_stearns200808

Bringing Down Bear Stearns

When Schwartz relayed the $4 idea to his board, several, including Cayne, grew apoplectic. Cayne argued strenuously that Bear simply file for bankruptcy. “There were a lot of people at that point who were just saying, ‘Fuck ’em—let’s go 11,’ ” remembers one person in the boardroom. It was then that Gary Parr and the bankruptcy attorneys patiently explained that bankruptcy was actually not an option, not for a major securities firm. Changes to the bankruptcy code in 2005 would force federal regulators to take over customer accounts. All its securities would be subject to immediate seizure by creditors.

Slowly, the humiliating inevitability of a $4-a-share buyout—for a firm whose shares had traded as high as $170 the year before—sank in. It was at that point, midafternoon, that Treasury secretary Paulson twisted the knife. As the ranking politician involved in the deal, he was concerned with appearances—both how it would look that the federal government was bailing out a well-heeled investment bank at a time when normal Americans were losing their homes, and the appearance of something lawyers call “moral hazard,” that is, the idea that a Bear deal, by appearing to “save” a bank whose poor judgment had pushed it to the brink of bankruptcy, might actually encourage risky behavior by other financial institutions. This deal, Paulson judged, had to hurt Bear. And it had to hurt badly.
Paulson and Tim Geithner telephoned Dimon at Morgan. He put them on speaker. Dimon said he was considering a price in the $4-to-$5 range. “That sounds high to me,” Paulson said. “I think this should be done at a very low price.” A little later, Morgan’s Doug Braunstein reached Gary Parr at Bear. A formal offer would be forthcoming, Braunstein said. “The number’s $2,” he said.

Koji je sutra srednji tečaj?

Don't be convinced of your super knowledge of the market, the market does what it wants, and you are just along for the ride!


evo fazan samo za tebe i preporučam za čitanje jako poučno štivo (ima 8 strana)
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/bear_stearns200808

Bringing Down Bear Stearns

Joj, to sam baš neki dan pročitao. Zaglavilo u bookmark fajlu neko vrijeme. Malo je poduže pa sam poneki pasus malo brže prošao, ali stvarno je poučno štivo, zapravo pravi krimić. Toplo preporučam. [thumbsup]

Inače si ja nekako razmišljam da JPM koristi ovu frku i lovi slabe na udicu jednako kao i u prošlom stoljeću. Pitanje je samo tko je slijedeći i kada će im biti dosta za ovaj krug.

US took freewheeling capitalism to the limits and the wheels came off


JPM

jesi pročitao stoljeće rata …

taj JPM se spominje u svim krizama, svjetskim zavjerama i sl.

I love the Smell of Profits in the Morning


evo fazan samo za tebe i preporučam za čitanje jako poučno štivo (ima 8 strana)
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/08/bear_stearns200808

oke, čitam sutra na poslu, ali koja je bit …

inače, fed je otvorio discount window za ovakav tip banaka i smanjio discount rate, gotovo na federal fund rate …

I love the Smell of Profits in the Morning


jesi pročitao stoljeće rata …

taj JPM se spominje u svim krizama, svjetskim zavjerama i sl.

Jesam davno i već sve zaboravio. Ali kad god vidim taj JPM negdje, prođu me trnci. Dosta se povlači i po tim dokumentarcima na temu propasti amerike i sl.. Dark force, definitivno. The ultimate predator.


Kinezi su sokirani komunizmom u USA. [lol]
Da i to dozivimo.

Nije ni njima lako. Taman se dopola navuku na kapitalizam, povedeni primjerom amerike, a onda krene kolaps u americi. Sad su tamo partijski sastanci na najvišem nivou… koj q da sad radimo? [lol]

US took freewheeling capitalism to the limits and the wheels came off

cijena dionice je obrnuto proporcionalna korištenju discount windowa [proud]


HR burza nije reagirala na veliki rast u svijetu. To je žalosno.

Ajde šta si se tako rastužio… HR burza nije reagirala ni na veliki pad u svijetu prošli tjedan. Sad smo kvita. [wink]

US took freewheeling capitalism to the limits and the wheels came off


cijena dionice je obrnuto proporcionalna korištenju discount windowa [proud]

da, ali u ovom slučaju to preuzima vlada, a bear sterni nije … (barem ne službeno) [lol]

inače, trebalo bi malo pročitati koju knjigu o načinu života i razmišljanja amerikanaca, pa shvatiti da su njima ovakve stvari svakodnevica, dobro ajd baš ne ovakve, i da je to zapravo snaga koja ih tjera naprijed …

jednostavno tako oni shvaćaju biznis …

I love the Smell of Profits in the Morning

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