Kako prebroditi svjetsku krizu uz što manje posljedica – makroekonomski pogled

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Forum namijenjen svim temama vezanim za dionice, obveznice i druge vrijednosne papire te trgovanje istima u Hrvatskoj.

Po mojim proračunima takva infrastruktura bi hrvatskoj donosila i sunčanu/vjetro električnu struju koja bi premašivala današnje potrebe električne koja se danas koristi u HR.

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Ajmo još malo o ekološkim investicijama…

Pročistači otpadnih voda koje fale na jadranu…izgleda da samo Senj ima pročistač voda. 50 mil kn investicija.

Pomnožimo po broju gradova na moru i eto ti par miljarda EUR-a.

Dapače…brodogradilišta bi mogla graditi pročistače koji bi se onda dovezli i povezali pred izgrađenim dokovima pred morskim gradovima.

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Jednostavno pitanje formašima….na čemu se može ponovo generirati rast?

Na informatici relativno mali rast.
Na nekretninama gotovo nikakav…iscrpljen za bar jednu generaciju.
Na infrastrukturi (autoputevi)…možda još na balkanu.
Na telekomunikacijama isto slabo.

Na čemu realno još možemo vidjeti rast globalne ekonomije?

Dok se ne stvara realan novi produkt nema niš od oporavka nit napredka.

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Potrošnja nije napredak. Napredovali smo i ove dvije godine velike recesije, a to što BDP to ne zna prikazat, to je njgov problem. I 1900. godine je netko reko – šta bi se, jebote, još moglo napravit?
Jedan šaraf ili jedna posuda s bakterijama koju netko zaboravio stavit u frižider preko noći promjeni sve i zapali stoljeće eksplozivnog razvoja društva.

The question isn’t who is going to let me. It’s who is going to stop me.


Potrošnja nije napredak. Napredovali smo i ove dvije godine velike recesije, a to što BDP to ne zna prikazat, to je njgov problem. I 1900. godine je netko reko – šta bi se, jebote, još moglo napravit?
Jedan šaraf ili jedna posuda s bakterijama koju netko zaboravio stavit u frižider preko noći promjeni sve i zapali stoljeće eksplozivnog razvoja društva.

The question isn’t who is going to let me. It’s who is going to stop me.

Upravo to…sama potrošnja nas drži na istoj razini…glava malo izvan vode…bez pravog boosta

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Soros:

http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-we-are-just-entering-act-2-of-the-crisis-and-were-totally-screwed-2010-6

Zanimljiv text… par teasera:

"Second, financial markets do not play a purely passive role; they can also affect the so-called fundamentals they are supposed to reflect. These two functions that financial markets perform work in opposite directions. In the passive or cognitive function, the fundamentals are supposed to determine market prices. In the active or manipulative function market, prices find ways of influencing the fundamentals. When both functions operate at the same time, they interfere with each other. The supposedly independent variable of one function is the dependent variable of the other, so that neither function has a truly independent variable. As a result, neither market prices nor the underlying reality is fully determined."

"Typically bubbles have an asymmetric shape. The boom is long and slow to start. It accelerates gradually until it flattens out again during the twilight period. The bust is short and steep because it involves the forced liquidation of unsound positions. Disillusionment turns into panic, reaching its climax in a financial crisis."

The cure for low price is low price. Demand goes up, supply comes down, the price goes up.


Soros:

http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-we-are-just-entering-act-2-of-the-crisis-and-were-totally-screwed-2010-6

Zanimljiv text… par teasera:

"Second, financial markets do not play a purely passive role; they can also affect the so-called fundamentals they are supposed to reflect. These two functions that financial markets perform work in opposite directions. In the passive or cognitive function, the fundamentals are supposed to determine market prices. In the active or manipulative function market, prices find ways of influencing the fundamentals. When both functions operate at the same time, they interfere with each other. The supposedly independent variable of one function is the dependent variable of the other, so that neither function has a truly independent variable. As a result, neither market prices nor the underlying reality is fully determined."

"Typically bubbles have an asymmetric shape. The boom is long and slow to start. It accelerates gradually until it flattens out again during the twilight period. The bust is short and steep because it involves the forced liquidation of unsound positions. Disillusionment turns into panic, reaching its climax in a financial crisis."

da…upravo ovako…

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_TmGEp40pMr4/TBYSTvgiQ8I/AAAAAAAABrM/2wHgmgNXQuY/rast.jpg

crna je lažna krivulja rasta koju generiraju ljudi ulaganjem u bubble
a crvena je skrivena realna krivulja rasta

(s time da su ovi oštri vrhovi zaobljeni)

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U Afganistanu pronašli commoditya u vrijednosti 1 tril. USD
party, party, party!


U Afganistanu pronašli commoditya u vrijednosti 1 tril. USD
party, party, party!

Rat protiv terorizma [lol]

http://www.seebiz.eu/hr/makroekonomija/hrvatska/jurcic-vlada-nije-rekla-kako-ce-povecati-prihode,81585.html



U Afganistanu pronašli commoditya u vrijednosti 1 tril. USD
party, party, party!

Rat protiv terorizma [lol]
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Kao jedan vojnik se spotaknuo na grumen Litija i onda je došo rašljar i otkrio velika nalazišta. [lol]

P.S. Već prije nekoliko godina je lansiran satelit oko Marsa koji na temelju pasivnih senzora skenira depozite. A što tek onda imaju da leti oko zemlje [shocked]

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Milanović: Ne plaća me Kosor nego porezni obveznici!

Gle ovog bisera koliko mu je trebalo da shvati tko ga plaća. [lol] [lol]

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