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Hmph, ako se dobro sjecam na atolu Majuro im je glavni grad… tam bi im trebal biti i trgovacki sud, ako ga uopce i imaju [wink]

Ti bi po onoj nasoj, "vse vas bum tuzil"

Da su Marshali ostali nasi, tamo bi se sudilo po bushido spiritu….

ume da broji sarafe, ali krivo:procenat i tacno; povjest;samnom, neznam, 100 ATPL=1000E, uvjek, vjest..plata?!, dejstvuje

Evo za Maršalove otoke.

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Shipping’s struggle to stay afloat

The economic crisis has resulted in a fall in demand for freight transport, threatening the survival of many ship owners and operators, says Axel Pierron of Celent, the research consultancy.
Mr Pierron says a “huge financing requirement for shipbuilding order books” has emerged because banks are reluctant to finance vessel purchases, provide guarantees for payments to shipyards or to guarantee payments for goods, especially in the dry bulk sector which represents 55 per cent of all sea-borne trade.
Shipyards worldwide have orders worth $600bn through to 2012, requiring about $320bn in funding
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The consultancy warns the market will see an oversupply of new ships with a 40 per cent increase in the next two to three years and this will put further pressure on falling price levels. However, Mr Pierron expects to see the freight market start to recover by the middle of 2009, helped by rising exports of agricultural commodities.

NE CVETA CVEĆE NI U NAŠE PREDUZEĆE


However, Mr Pierron expects to see the freight market start to recover by the middle of 2009, helped by rising exports of agricultural commodities. [/b]

to je zapravo dobra vijest, tako nekako i ja očekujem [thumbsup]

 I m a g i n a t i o n * a t * w o r k 



However, Mr Pierron expects to see the freight market start to recover by the middle of 2009, helped by rising exports of agricultural commodities. [/b]

to je zapravo dobra vijest, tako nekako i ja očekujem [thumbsup]
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Koliko se ja sjećam nas dvojica smo pričali o ulasku u dionice negdje oko ljeta 2009.

NE CVETA CVEĆE NI U NAŠE PREDUZEĆE

Dionice su kao i zene… Ako ne udjes ti, uci ce netko drugi. [yawn]

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."


Dionice su kao i zene… Ako ne udjes ti, uci ce netko drugi. [yawn]

Ako izađeš na vrijeme, ne bankrotiraš.

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However, Mr Pierron expects to see the freight market start to recover by the middle of 2009, helped by rising exports of agricultural commodities. [/b]

to je zapravo dobra vijest, tako nekako i ja očekujem [thumbsup]
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Koliko se ja sjećam nas dvojica smo pričali o ulasku u dionice negdje oko ljeta 2009.

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jebiga, morao sam nenadano malo ranije da zajebem ove koji su nas prisluškivali [lol]

 I m a g i n a t i o n * a t * w o r k 


Dionice su kao i zene… Ako ne udjes ti, uci ce netko drugi. [yawn]

Samo kao i kod zena moras paziti da ne udjes prerano da te ne zarobe [lol]



Dionice su kao i zene… Ako ne udjes ti, uci ce netko drugi. [yawn]

Samo kao i kod zena moras paziti da ne udjes prerano da te ne zarobe [lol]
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Bitno je izaci na vrijeme… A i za zene ima stop-loss, na kiosku 3 kom 20 kn. [cool]

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."

I nema diverzifikacije… poželjno je imat jaja u jednoj košari. [smiley]

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………"[b]HALF of the dry bulk newbuilding deliveries in 2010 are in doubt because of a lack of owners’ finance and unrealistic promises from yards to deliver on time,[/b] a leading investment bank has warned.
In 2007, shipowners placed $90bn in dry bulk vessel orderings, more than the previous nine years combined, according to the latest research note by Macquarie Research Equities.
But in the past three months, dry bulk shipping rates have collapsed and owners have found it difficult to obtain finance to make payments for their vessels on order.
Shipyards took so many orders last year that they were unlikely to be delivered on time, Macquarie said. As a result, Macquarie warned that as much as half of the planned deliveries in 2010 were in doubt.
“However, we note that both of these themes would have been an issue even without the deepening of the credit crisis over the past three months,” Macquarie said.
In 2010, Macquarie estimated that 108.5m dwt of vessels were planned for delivery. This has now been revised down to 65.1m dwt.
There is typically a two-year lag between the increased freight rates and increased deliveries of vessels. As such, fleet growth was expected to continue to accelerate into the middle of 2010, according to Macquarie.
“However, looking at previous cycles and the two years lag for supply to diminish, this would imply that much of the mid-2010 deliveries would be in jeopardy, based on previous responses.
“One reason for this is that it is likely that for many of these vessels, no more than 20% was put on deposits and only limited expenditures have been made by the yards.
“Given that vessel values have fallen well below construction cost even after taking into account the 20% deposit, many of these ships will not be made,” Macquarie said.
Macquarie estimated that only 23% of the dry bulk order book has received any further payments, beyond the first down payment. Furthermore, more than 10% of orders were estimated to not have paid deposits.
We expect close to 100% of all orders without a deposit to be cancelled or renegotiated,” Macquarie said.
Macquaries said that $46bn worth of finance was needed in 2008, $66bn in 2009 and $31bn in 2010. This assumed that 80% of the vessel investment is financed by debt and 20% by equity.
Macquarie said it had visited 15 shipyards in China over the summer and found widespread problems with cancellations. Of those yards, 11 had reported cancellations with shipowner financing the main issue.
None of the yards claimed to have had any cancellations after the first down payment. However, Macquarie expected that the situation had since deteriorated substantially.
In 2008, yards were expected to delivery over 30m dwt of dry bulk vessels, but have only delivered around 18m dwt through to the end of October Macquarie said.
Of the Chinese yards visited in the summer, 80% were experiencing delays in delivering on time, Macquarie said.
The primary cause for delays was a lack of shipbuilding experience and technology for smaller yards, while larger yards cited a shortage of ship components as the constraint.
Macquarie said that the yards credible was now the main issue, which was over and above the ship financing issues.
“In other words, even for the ship owners that are able to deliver funding for vessels, will the shipyards themselves be able to deliver? We think not,” Macquarie said. …."

Obzirom na preuzimanje Zagreba , Pracata i (ako Bog da) Držića početkom 2009., ATPL uopće nije u lošoj situaciji , u trenutku kad su rezališta sve punija starijih brodova.

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