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Ovih par milijuna kn prometa je igra…

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NE CVETA CVEĆE NI U NAŠE PREDUZEĆE

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http://www.zse.hr/default.aspx?id=23977

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Precious warns bankruptcies will be the ‘norm’

By Marcus Hand in Singapore – četvrtak 5 veljača 2009

HANDYSIZE dry bulk specialist Precious Shipping continued to reap strong profits in the fourth quarter of 2008 but warned that shipowner bankruptcies could become “the norm”.

Even with the dramatic collapse in dry bulk shipping markets, Thailand-listed Precious managed to rake in a $34.7m fourth quarter net profit compared with $19.9m in the same period a year earlier. For 2008 as a whole the company reported a net profit of $148.1m compared with $125.1m in 2007.

Precious’ continued profitability in a sharp market downturn has been buoyed by locking in earnings on long-term charters, with the company fixing 96.4% of available fleet days in 2008 on time charters at an average daily rate per ship of $16,129 daily or a total of $250.3m.

However the results contain a grim market outlook from Precious managing director Khalid Hashim, who warned that the next 12 months looked “very bleak”, even when compared to historical averages.

“The next four to eight quarters could be characterised by low to very low rates, with major bankruptcies amongst shipowners becoming more the norm than the exception,” he said.

His forecast is based on a wholesale slump in demand from developed economies.

“Demand destruction has taken place on a rather large scale with all the developed economies actually shrinking. Barring India and China I can not think of any other major economy that has got any form of positive growth forecasts for their GDP,” Mr Hashim told Lloyd’s List.

“As shipping is a derived demand, deriving its fortunes from the growth in world GDP, I have very little confidence in dramatic growth taking place in the immediate future.”

The company noted that in the key China market all major steel producers had said that they would cut back production by 20% to 30% this year.

“This cut-back will feel like a kick in the face for the freight market during 2009,” Mr Hashim said.

Against such a bleak market outlook and low freight rates, the shipowner has seen some charterers trying to renegotiate contracts, although to date has faced no form of defaults.

“One client has asked that we substitute an older ship with two modern ones where the net impact to us was beneficial in terms of over all benefit to the company,” he said.

In another case a charter was extended for a lower charter rate, while one charter opted to buy back the remainder of the contract 90 days early.

The current state of the market means that locking vessels in to long-term charters makes little sense for Precious. Nevertheless, around 31% of forward fleet days over the next four years have been locked in at average daily rates ranging from $13,062 to $18,467 on an annual basis.

Precious though sees opportunities to replace 25 aging vessels from its fleet of 44 handysize bulkers during the market downturn.

“The rejuvenation plan has the best chance of success under the existing financially stressed conditions. This is the opportunity that we had been patiently waiting for, and which, if implemented successfully, would ensure the long-term profitability of the company over the next two to three decades,” Mr Hashim said.

The company previously had a $500m credit line to acquire secondhand vessels, but never drew down on it due to high vessel prices. Mr Hashim said that it would continue to work with its lenders on extending this facility and expected to have some news in the next few weeks.

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NE CVETA CVEĆE NI U NAŠE PREDUZEĆE

…..večer

-Ne bih favorizirao skromnost …… , kod žena to nije cijenjena osobina ….. , ali ovo je
ipak nešto drugo …… [smiley]

-Odvajati ATPL od našeg tržišta (kapitala) je ipak nemoguće …. , no postoje neki
pokazatelji koji idu u prilog spomenutoj dionici …

…..CROBEX je posljednji put bio nešto viši kada je ATPL bila na ovoj razini , a on je
(mislim na CROBEX) ipak glavni pokazatelj ……
…..Neke projekcije su pokazivale (ipak) male gubitke , ali prije ovoga oporavka
cijena vozarina ….. , što sada prestaje biti važno obzirom na izgledan rast BDI-a ,
BCI-a , BPI-a i svih ostalih $$I-a ………

….Sljedom toga očekujem kompletnu dividendu …… [smiley]

-Znači zaključak se sam nameće ……. , trebaju nam "zeleni" dani …. , kada će
narasti i druge dionice ….. , ali ATPL će narasti ipak malo više ….jer ima dobre
razloge za to …..

-Razumljivi su veliki apetiti ….. , razumljiv je i žal onih u kešu (što čekaju 200) … [smiley]

-No ipak očekivanja bi trebala biti rezultat percepcije ….
….i nije dobro kada percepcija postane rezultat očekivanja ….. [smiley]

.Dr M Wagner

Jao Techmane opet nisi ušo, a bilo po 740 na lopate. [tongue]

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cijena atlantske nije konsolidirana. nemojte da vas zanose neke cifre tipa 820, 850, 900 i sl…
nek malo jači igrač puhne po bidu, brzo smo dolje…
atlantska je svježe betonirana na 800. nije za diranje sve dok promet na njoj (ma i na crodreksu) ne ojača. otkako sam se natovario, kupujem mic po mic, igram se dirigenta i ni sit bunike ne prodajem.
tko voli atlantsku, neka stane iza mene, u red…

hehe, ovo prvi put čujem. Da cijena nije konsolidirana. Daj pls malo to pojasni. Di su ti oni kompići što su prodavali onaj dan? Jel su se vratili ili čekaju povoljnije? Nadam se da je ovo drugo. Nekako bih se osjećao sigurnije.
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a da governer, izričaj je malo nespretan (to je kod mene počesto) i htio sam nešto drugo reći: da me netko pita koliko je atlantska, ne bih dvojio: 800 kn. problem je sljedeće prirode: lik koji glumi gurua, ponudio mi je prebijanje nečega (nebitno) dionicama atlantske po 800 kn.
ok, možda izgledam malo šuntavo, ali nisam baš: rekoh ja njemu: ae ti to lipo prodaaj na burzi pa mi dadni pare, a ja vodim na ručak. drugim riječima: uzet ću ti atlantsku al po 720. i to ja tebi, prijateljski, inače prodaji. prodat ćeš 5 po 805, 8 po 799,99, 16 po 750,01 a ostale po koliko ti dadnu. meniš dat pare za 3 dana (slovima: odmah kako znaš i umiješ) svota je cca 15k eur.
dakle, htio sam reći da je dašak dovoljan da napravi krš na ovoj dionici. uostalom, cijeli nam je krodreks takav. danas na ht u prvoj trećini sata 50ak k kn. eej, 50ak k kn!!
a škvadra baja o nekim krilovitim uzlazima kojih neće biti dok se ne ulije kapitala.
strančani i ini mogu konsolidirati cijenu. mi, škvadra s foruma koji vičemo upupup, šljok, progut, prd… a ne-ne!!
frendovi? ovi koji su prodali dionice ne razlikuju dionicu atlantske od dionice zagreb-split.
treći je kupiprodajkupiprodaj pa sam ga uhvatio in flagranti.
al da imam moć navlačenja, imam
:-))

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