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Skoro pola sata da nema transakcije? Alo? Čeka se BDI?

ništa se ne čeka, svako tolko netko zvizne par stotina ili tisuću komada po bidu
sad mi je več sumnjivo ovo dobro izvješče kao da je namjerno napumpano da se digne kupnja i da se netko iskrca??
netko je rekao da se dionice prodaju kad su vijesti dobre, a kupuju kad su loše!
nekako se bojim da je taj u pravu??

moje pisanje je moje osobno mišljenje, nije savjet ili poziv za kupnju ili prodaju dionica!

Jedan mali komentar u svezi novogradnji…

By Aasa Christine Stoltz
OSLO, Nov 7 (Reuters) – At least one-third of orders to build dry-bulk ships may be cancelled and many others delayed due to the global financial crisis and tight lending conditions, industry insiders and analysts said.
Demand for ocean transport has plummeted due to falling demand for commodities and to fears of recession. Freight rates have tumbled and financing of projects has proved tougher in the industry as lending conditions stay tight.
The massive fleet orderbook, built up over five years of booming growth, is expected to see large cuts, with many already announced. Many industry sources now say that the cut in orders could be even bigger than expected.
"We think that one-third of the bulk order book will be cancelled and that the remaining orders will see quite a few delays," Erik Andersen, head of shipping brokerage Platou, told Reuters, adding that this was mainly for 2010 and 2011.
Andersen said that as a result, the order book would grow by about 7-8 percent per year over the next few years, down from 12-15 percent in the peak years.
This week U.S.-based Genco Shipping & Trading Ltd cancelled a deal to buy six drybulk vessels. Britannia Bulk Holdings Inc said in late October it may file for bankruptcy protection due to the financial squeeze.
The Baltic Exchange’s dry sea freight index <.BADI>, a gauge of global demand for dry commodities, sank to a 9-year low this week, as fears of global recession and tight lines of credit suffocated trade.
The London-based index which tracks prices for raw materials, excluding oil, on top export routes, has fallen more than 90 percent from its peak in May this year.
Carl Steen, head of Nordea’s Norwegian shipping, offshore and oil services unit, said many orders were placed with fledgling shipyards and that cancellations would be "much larger" than the market expects.
"At least one-third of ordered ships will not be delivered," Steen said, adding that the number could easily rise.

MORE BALANCED MARKET?
The tonnage reduction will help balance an industry faced with massive oversupply, analysts said [ID:nL9483056]. Platou’s Andersen said capacity cuts could avoid a situation of "structural overcapacity".
In October, leading bankers in the shipping industry said lending would remain extremely tight [ID:nLG523966] [ID:nLN272507].
One analyst said that about 40 percent of all new orders were placed at new and inexperienced yards, which are expected to struggle more than established yards. Banks have also said they prioritise their relationship with established customers.
"Things suggest that somewhere between 30 to 50 percent of today’s order book is at risk from not being delivered," said an analyst at a Nordic brokerage, who asked not to be named.
Arctic Security analyst Jonas Shum said: "Our estimate is for 22 percent cancellations, but there is a risk that we will have to raise this — possibly up towards 30 percent."
About 90 percent of the world’s traded goods by volume, including key raw materials, are shipped by sea, so analysts often use freight rates as an indicator for global growth.
In 2009, 860 bulk ships are expected to be delivered, with 2,321 ships from 2010 and onwards, according to Platou.
In the oil tanker market, a separate industry sector, 699 deliveries are expected in 2009 and 947 in 2010. Platou said that it expected about 10 percent cancellations of these orders. (Reporting by Aasa Christine Stoltz; Editing by Stefano Ambrogi Anthony Barker) ((aasachristine.stoltz@reuters.com; +47 22 93 69 02; Reuters messaging: rm://aasachristine.stoltz.reuters.com@reuters.net)


Skoro pola sata da nema transakcije? Alo? Čeka se BDI?

Ne čeka se baš ni BDI, već jednostavno investitori su izgubili povjerenje u tržište i ništa drugo, jer ako danas Evropa i Amerika rastu, sutra bi kao po običaju znali padati. E sad kupovati pred samim padom, jednostavno investitori se ne usude.

Vlasnik računa Stanje [%] Vrsta računa
1. HRVATSKI FOND ZA PRIVATIZACIJU 140.111 10,04 Osnovni račun
2. ATLANTSKA PLOVIDBA D.D. 132.070 9,46 Osnovni račun
3. CROATIA OSIGURANJE D.D. 68.681 4,92 Osnovni račun
4. CROATIA OSIGURANJE D.D. – ŽIVOTNO OSIGURANJE 68.680 4,92 Osnovni račun
5. USKOKOVIĆ ŽELIMIR 58.701 4,21 Osnovni račun
6. JERKOVIĆ ANTE 54.868 3,93 Osnovni račun
7. VLADOVIĆ-RELJA DUŠKO 50.000 3,58 Osnovni račun
8. LONZA VLAHO 48.842 3,50 Osnovni račun
9. ŠMOK DAMIR 29.965 2,15 Osnovni račun
10. PBZ D.D. 29.864 2,14 Skrb. račun
Ukupno: 48,86

Kolege dali netko ima top10 od prije 15 dana???
Ako ima lijepo ga molimd a posta tu.

Moji postovi ne predstavljaju nagovor niti na kupnju niti na prodaju dionica!



Skoro pola sata da nema transakcije? Alo? Čeka se BDI?

ništa se ne čeka, svako tolko netko zvizne par stotina ili tisuću komada po bidu
sad mi je več sumnjivo ovo dobro izvješče kao da je namjerno napumpano da se digne kupnja i da se netko iskrca??
netko je rekao da se dionice prodaju kad su vijesti dobre, a kupuju kad su loše!
nekako se bojim da je taj u pravu??
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a ništa onda prodaj ATPL pa kupi Magmu… [proud]

na 4300 sve prodajem...

BDI Baltic Exchange Dry Index 829 DOWN 10
BCI Baltic Exchange Capesize Index 1120 DOWN 42
BPI Baltic Exchange Panamax Index 836 UP 5
BSI Baltic Exchange Supramax Index 530 UP 9
BHSI Baltic Exchange Handysize Index 296 DOWN 3

When wealth is lost, nothing is lost; when health is lost, something is lost; when character is lost, all is lost. ~Billy Graham

Nevjerovatno, opet pao BDI…
Valjda je to znao onaj koji je prodao 1050 komada po bidu.


Nevjerovatno, opet pao BDI…
Valjda je to znao onaj koji je prodao 1050 komada po bidu.


BDI Baltic Exchange Dry Index 829 DOWN 10
BCI Baltic Exchange Capesize Index 1120 DOWN 42
BPI Baltic Exchange Panamax Index 836 UP 5
BSI Baltic Exchange Supramax Index 530 UP 9
BHSI Baltic Exchange Handysize Index 296 DOWN 3


znaci panamax UP
capes DOWN
ATPL ima panamaxe [wink]

Ivo Sanader je otišao jer mu je tako naredio Chuck Norris.


Nevjerovatno, opet pao BDI…

To je zanemariv pad od 1%,a gledaj da index za panamaxe,nama najbitniji raste treći dan za redom

When wealth is lost, nothing is lost; when health is lost, something is lost; when character is lost, all is lost. ~Billy Graham

Ovo je prije nekih dvadesetak dana

ATLANSKA

1.HRVATSKI FOND ZA PRIVATIZACIJU 140.111

2.ATLANTSKA PLOVIDBA D.D. 132.070

3.CROATIA OSIGURANJE D.D. 68.681

4.CROATIA OSIGURANJE D.D. – ŽIVOTNO OSIGURANJE 68.680

5.USKOKOVIĆ ŽELIMIR 58.701

6.JERKOVIĆ ANTE 54.868

7. VLADOVIĆ-RELJA DUŠKO 50.000

8. LONZA VLAHO 48.842

9. PBZ D.D. 32.680

10.HPB D.D. 32.096

SVE ŠTO JE DANAS SKUPO SUTRA ĆE BITI JOŠ SKUPLJE A BITI ĆE VAM JEFTINO?????????


Nevjerovatno, opet pao BDI…
Valjda je to znao onaj koji je prodao 1050 komada po bidu.

e kolega, baš ste me nasmijali iako je situacija ozbiljna ! [lol]


Ovo je prije nekih dvadesetak dana

ATLANSKA

1.HRVATSKI FOND ZA PRIVATIZACIJU 140.111

2.ATLANTSKA PLOVIDBA D.D. 132.070

3.CROATIA OSIGURANJE D.D. 68.681

4.CROATIA OSIGURANJE D.D. – ŽIVOTNO OSIGURANJE 68.680

5.USKOKOVIĆ ŽELIMIR 58.701

6.JERKOVIĆ ANTE 54.868

7. VLADOVIĆ-RELJA DUŠKO 50.000

8. LONZA VLAHO 48.842

9. PBZ D.D. 32.680

10.HPB D.D. 32.096

ova zadnja dva 9 i 10 prodali su cca. 2500 kom svaki…

na 4300 sve prodajem...

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