Moram citirati postovanog Shoguna uz jos jedan pozv Warrenu da svrati, poprica, pojede nesto… vidim malo je ublijedio od ove recesije :
Samo želim reći da za te brodove u bilanci treba računati da ATPL mora platit’ te brodove, znači u kalkulaciji neto dobiti jasno, ide samo razlika.
A što se tiče p/e kao referenca, to je može biti target samo u slučaju ukupne dobiti jer ni kod DRYS-a osim što je 75% spot igrač nije to čista dobit (prodaju stare kupuju nove na kredit). Realno bi se ATPL trebala tržiti između 12 i 14 fw.p/e. U tom slučaju računice izvodite sami, za konzervativne igrače (kojih je frka ovog biznisa) neka taj target pomnože sa očekivanom čistom dobiti koja će po svemu ići preko 120M$.
Pogledati tickere DRYS, EXM, TBSI, DSX, EGLE na yahoo, key statistics na lijevoj strani..
Osobno smatram da na ovu likvidnost nema ovakvog potencijala od Alpa pa do Crnog mora…(moram ga malo)
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Firme kao ATPL su idealan target za Buffeta. Preiskusan, gotovo obiteljski mangement, propulzivan sektor sa sigurnom 10-15 godisnjim rastom, diverzifikacija rizika a pruza goleme mogucnosti za daljnje investicije…
@mile 1984
Upravo sam postao na JDPL. Zadnja dva dana sve pada a JDPL se dobro drzi i cak poraste iako je prema zadnjem FI u minusu, drzavni, upitna uprava….. Neko je u zadnje vrijeme kupovao kao sumanut. Prometi su bili neuobicajeno visoki. I sada izgleda da tome ne pase da se sremoglavljuje. Kad je poceo tonuti jutros odmah je postavljena obrana od nekih 400 dionica na 630. Nisam mogao pratit trgovanje zbog drugih obaveza ali mislim da je bilo zanimljivo. Ukoliko se trend nastavi za pretpostaviti je da zaista imamo jakog igraca unutra,
Tko to kupuje nakon lošeg FI-a i nakon ovolikog rasta. [bye]
sve ide PARALELNO!
samo tko će na kraju platiti račun???!!
Ovi sto se voze autima, kamionima, avionima itd…
Beta, kažeš? Da je bar ove godine beta bila 20 bilo bi mi još draže.
Beta 20?! [lol]
Beta 20?! [lol]
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Sto bi reklo cost of equty 100%, sto bi reklo vrijednost nula.
Niste se skuzili valjda.
Ovi sto se voze autima, kamionima, avionima itd…
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Ne bi islo. Oni ce dici svoje cijene, pa cemo na kraju racun platiti svi mi kao i svaki puta do sada jer rast cijena energenata pogadja sve lancanom reakcijom.
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Tako je … mislio sam naglasiti kako ce shipping zauvijek ostati najjeftiniji oblik prijevoza robe
Baltic Exchange Dry Index 11648 DOWN 123
BCI Baltic Exchange Capesize Index 18051 DOWN 77
BPI Baltic Exchange Panamax Index 10866 DOWN 381
BSI Baltic Exchange Supramax Index 6743 UP 34
BHSI Baltic Exchange Handysize Index 3407 UP 10
Baltic Exchange Dry Index 11648 DOWN 123
BCI Baltic Exchange Capesize Index 18051 DOWN 77
BPI Baltic Exchange Panamax Index 10866 DOWN 381
BSI Baltic Exchange Supramax Index 6743 UP 34
BHSI Baltic Exchange Handysize Index 3407 UP 10
Baš zanimljivo da ti objavljuješ ovakvu vijest.
Ovi sto se voze autima, kamionima, avionima itd…
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Ne bi islo. Oni ce dici svoje cijene, pa cemo na kraju racun platiti svi mi kao i svaki puta do sada jer rast cijena energenata pogadja sve lancanom reakcijom.
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Tako je … mislio sam naglasiti kako ce shipping zauvijek ostati najjeftiniji oblik prijevoza robe
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Nece ni to. Jednog dana ce izmislit teleportiranje pa ce sav ovaj transport koji danas poznamo postati history [wink]
Market Scan
Anchors Away On Sino-Global’s First Trading Day
Melinda Peer, 05.21.08, 6:50 PM ET
Sino-Global America shares set sail Wednesday, billowing 80.4% in its trading debut on the Nasdaq Capital Market.
Investors see the Chinese shipping services company as a way to capitalize on the country’s voracious demand for iron ore. The stock added $6.23, closing at $13.98 a share.
Sino-Global America (nasdaq: SINO – news – people ) is China’s leading nonstate-owned shipping company and competes directly with the partially government-owned companies Penavico and Sinoagent. Combined, the two companies account for 85.0% of the market share for Chinese shipping agencies.
"These competitors have significantly greater financial and marketing resources and name recognition than we have," the company said, addressing possible risks to the company’s success.
According to Sino-Global’s registration filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, total sales for Chinese shipping agencies were $1.5 billion in 2006. In 2007, the company’s sales rose 13.1%, to $10.1 million, from $8.9 million in 2006.
Sino-Global expects to receive $9.5 million for maximum net proceeds of $8.2 million–the majority of which it intends to use to expand its business in 15 to 35 Chinese ports. The company filed an initial public offering of 1.2 million shares priced at $7.75 a share. Anderson & Strudwick acted as the lead placement agent for the offering.
Investors obviously see a lot of potential for the company, which has primary executive offices in Flushing, N.Y., and Beijing, since China is the world’s biggest importer of iron ore. According to Sino-Global’s filing, China imports about 43.0% of the world’s iron ore and relies on the three companies for 75.0% of its iron ore shipments.
"China is currently the world’s largest importer of iron ore, and global shipping capacity has been unable to keep pace with China’s demand for iron ore, resulting in the cost of iron ore to China of 9.5% in 2007," the company said, adding that iron shipments comprise the bulk of its cargo.
Sino-Global incorporated in New York in 2001 to better develop its North American client base. The company acts as a local agent for its customers with its range of services, which includes customs assistance and help with ground transportation.
Shipping rates are expected to surge even higher in the wake of Monday’s earthquake since China will become more reliant on imports–particularly for construction materials as the country begins the rebuilding process. (See: China’s Quake Boosts Dry Bulk Rates)
On Wednesday, China’s National Development and Reform Commission said stockpiles of imported iron ore at its ports totaled a record 79.2 million tons as of May 15. Steel mills have been hoarding iron ore at Chinese ports in anticipation of further domestic price hikes for the raw material, said Liu Baoyao, a steel analyst with Guangfa Securities. China warned that it would penalize mills that engage in hoarding.
China imports iron ore primarily from Australia, Brazil and India. (See: China Can’t Get A Break On Indian Iron Ore)
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američki brodaro padaju od 5 do 10%
drys je bio -10, sad -8,8…